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Re: Legal problems with access

Brian Sandle (
Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:47:22 +1200 (NZST)

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:47:22 +1200 (NZST)
From: Brian Sandle <>
Subject: Re: Legal problems with access
In-Reply-To: <>

On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Joe Yandle wrote:

> Anexia wrote:
> >
> > Brian Sandle wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I'll be a bit monotonous on this for a while and ask what do drug
> > > people do to look after their failures?
> >
> > That question is ambiguous. Do you mean "failures" as in "means with
> > unrealized ends", or do you mean "failures" as in "those who have
> > failed"?
> >
> maybe he's referring to people who have bad trips, those who overdose,
> or who become addicts. if that's what brian's talking about, then the
> answer is this: we do a hell of a lot more than any church. we do
> whatever the situation demands for our "failures". sometimes that means
> you sit and talk to the person for hours; sometimes you just hold them
> tight and let them know that the world's not as cold and judgemental as
> the christian church teaches. sometimes you have to call an ambulance
> for a person.

That's the trouble, when you have to transfer the mess on to people who
have to use resources which should have been available for other things.

Sometimes the injured will not be able to return to their employment,
then does the support continue?

And what about when an opiate drug is tried to calm down the patient, and
that addiction occurs?

and most importantly, there are times when you need to
> leave someone the hell alone.

All people need time by themselves.

> as drug users, we know that there are dangers to what we do; thus, we
> look out for each other.

The message of danger needs to go across to the susceptible - that some
people may have schizophrenia triggered, epilepsy perhaps?

we aren't judgemental, and we care about the
> welfare of our fellow "drug people". if someone needs help, we give it.
> if they don't, we respect that too.
It must be fairly draining when a family supporter loses a job.

> peace,
> --
> ************************************************************************
> Joe Yandle "Every time that I plant a seed
> he said, 'Kill it before it grows'."
> -Bob Marley
> ************************************************************************
Well don't give it unnecessary soil where it is going to hurt a
susceptible entity.

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